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	<title>Comments on: How Do You Calculate a Pastor’s Salary?</title>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey mike! yeah i thought the homegrown pix would help break up the blog a little. glad you like.

thanks for your comments. yes, as a pastor&#039;s corporate responsibility grows, so should his compensation. again, it&#039;s all about balance. it just gets my goat sometimes when i hear a person say, &quot;well, it&#039;s ministry&quot; when justifying low pay, as if that settles it. i feel for pastors who don&#039;t get paid enough because it&#039;s &quot;ministry&quot;.

sure, they&#039;ll have their reward in heaven. but that doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t make life nicer for them on earth if we have the means, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey mike! yeah i thought the homegrown pix would help break up the blog a little. glad you like.</p>
<p>thanks for your comments. yes, as a pastor&#8217;s corporate responsibility grows, so should his compensation. again, it&#8217;s all about balance. it just gets my goat sometimes when i hear a person say, &#8220;well, it&#8217;s ministry&#8221; when justifying low pay, as if that settles it. i feel for pastors who don&#8217;t get paid enough because it&#8217;s &#8220;ministry&#8221;.</p>
<p>sure, they&#8217;ll have their reward in heaven. but that doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t make life nicer for them on earth if we have the means, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of setting off Scripture quotations in their own box like a picture! Blogs can get so visually uninteresting without something to break them up. I may just &quot;borrow&quot; that idea for my journal at ScriptureMenu.com . :)

Another point that strikes me... although this is far less &quot;spiritual&quot; in nature than the ones you made. From the pastor&#039;s viewpoint, the church is not only his ministry, but it is also his occupation. It&#039;s his job. And as the church grows, the pastor&#039;s duties grow from simply direct human-to-human ministry and teaching/preaching the Word, to directing the activities of the church entity. His job begins to resemble that of the CEO of a company, especially if the church grows to a larger size, let&#039;s say approaching or surpassing 1000 congregants. As administrative duties are added to his ministry duties, it seems only fair that the pastor&#039;s compensation reflects the additional responsibility. (As if taking calls from members in need at 3am, putting up with people who don&#039;t like his theology or the color of his tie, and having to trust God for a message every week, even in personally &quot;dry&quot; weeks, and knowing he has to deliver it with conviction even if he doesn&#039;t feel like it, aren&#039;t enough responsibility already!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of setting off Scripture quotations in their own box like a picture! Blogs can get so visually uninteresting without something to break them up. I may just &#8220;borrow&#8221; that idea for my journal at ScriptureMenu.com . :)</p>
<p>Another point that strikes me&#8230; although this is far less &#8220;spiritual&#8221; in nature than the ones you made. From the pastor&#8217;s viewpoint, the church is not only his ministry, but it is also his occupation. It&#8217;s his job. And as the church grows, the pastor&#8217;s duties grow from simply direct human-to-human ministry and teaching/preaching the Word, to directing the activities of the church entity. His job begins to resemble that of the CEO of a company, especially if the church grows to a larger size, let&#8217;s say approaching or surpassing 1000 congregants. As administrative duties are added to his ministry duties, it seems only fair that the pastor&#8217;s compensation reflects the additional responsibility. (As if taking calls from members in need at 3am, putting up with people who don&#8217;t like his theology or the color of his tie, and having to trust God for a message every week, even in personally &#8220;dry&#8221; weeks, and knowing he has to deliver it with conviction even if he doesn&#8217;t feel like it, aren&#8217;t enough responsibility already!)</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>concensus...is God&#039;s sign of approval and the right timing for His blessing. when the matter is viewed in this light even an opposition, or any obstacle, becomes a positive part of the process. 

never be hasty. even a good idea may not be God&#039;s best at the moment. wait. pray. never look down on others who don&#039;t easily go with the flow. be gentle. God&#039;s reign must rule, not human emotions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>concensus&#8230;is God&#8217;s sign of approval and the right timing for His blessing. when the matter is viewed in this light even an opposition, or any obstacle, becomes a positive part of the process. </p>
<p>never be hasty. even a good idea may not be God&#8217;s best at the moment. wait. pray. never look down on others who don&#8217;t easily go with the flow. be gentle. God&#8217;s reign must rule, not human emotions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, you caught me just as i was updating the site header. yeah, nice theme huh? tweaked only slightly. works for me.

interesting comments you made. i think it&#039;s up to the church as a whole, through the board of deacons, to evaluate their pastor and reward accordingly. it&#039;s not really about performance because any true pastor knows it&#039;s not about the pay but about his calling to obey God. all he needs to be concerned about is doing his job well - feeding the flock properly.

it shouldn&#039;t be hard for a church to discern whether their pastor is teaching and feeding them the Word or is just being gimmicky. wait, i take that back. there are too many churches that haven&#039;t a clue as to why they exist. so it&#039;s possible they wouldn&#039;t know heresy if it stomped them on the foot.

ahh... sticky issue huh? would love to sit down with ya and ponder it more. but in general, i think if a church is truly healthy spiritually, they&#039;ll know when and how to reward their pastor. it&#039;s just that sometimes, they need to be reminded :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, you caught me just as i was updating the site header. yeah, nice theme huh? tweaked only slightly. works for me.</p>
<p>interesting comments you made. i think it&#8217;s up to the church as a whole, through the board of deacons, to evaluate their pastor and reward accordingly. it&#8217;s not really about performance because any true pastor knows it&#8217;s not about the pay but about his calling to obey God. all he needs to be concerned about is doing his job well &#8211; feeding the flock properly.</p>
<p>it shouldn&#8217;t be hard for a church to discern whether their pastor is teaching and feeding them the Word or is just being gimmicky. wait, i take that back. there are too many churches that haven&#8217;t a clue as to why they exist. so it&#8217;s possible they wouldn&#8217;t know heresy if it stomped them on the foot.</p>
<p>ahh&#8230; sticky issue huh? would love to sit down with ya and ponder it more. but in general, i think if a church is truly healthy spiritually, they&#8217;ll know when and how to reward their pastor. it&#8217;s just that sometimes, they need to be reminded :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Suarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOhh.. don&#039;t get me started on this one!

Food for thought- you said &quot;Put another way, if he performs his studying and preaching duties worthily, we should reward him accordingly&quot; .. my question is: &quot;who&#039;s the judge?&quot; Who decides if he&#039;s dividing the word correctly? Shouldn&#039;t that person be the pastor instead?

Take my question and raise it higher- who&#039;s supposed to decide a Pastor&#039;s salary? A board of directors? A boss? A council of elders? Who watches a pastor&#039;s performance? 

This whole sticky situation turns the church into spectators &quot;Ooh I really like his word this Sunday, but last Sunday not so much&quot;... and the Pastor into a performer &quot;Ooh they said my performance is a B.. Gotta bring it to an A to get that raise&quot;... and the church into.. a business.

I&#039;m actually not disagreeing with you. Given the current setup, and that verse about muzzling the ox this is certainly a challenge. But maybe the setup should change... 

On another note.. nice theme... &quot;Elegant Grunge&quot;? I like what it does to inserted photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOhh.. don&#8217;t get me started on this one!</p>
<p>Food for thought- you said &#8220;Put another way, if he performs his studying and preaching duties worthily, we should reward him accordingly&#8221; .. my question is: &#8220;who&#8217;s the judge?&#8221; Who decides if he&#8217;s dividing the word correctly? Shouldn&#8217;t that person be the pastor instead?</p>
<p>Take my question and raise it higher- who&#8217;s supposed to decide a Pastor&#8217;s salary? A board of directors? A boss? A council of elders? Who watches a pastor&#8217;s performance? </p>
<p>This whole sticky situation turns the church into spectators &#8220;Ooh I really like his word this Sunday, but last Sunday not so much&#8221;&#8230; and the Pastor into a performer &#8220;Ooh they said my performance is a B.. Gotta bring it to an A to get that raise&#8221;&#8230; and the church into.. a business.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually not disagreeing with you. Given the current setup, and that verse about muzzling the ox this is certainly a challenge. But maybe the setup should change&#8230; </p>
<p>On another note.. nice theme&#8230; &#8220;Elegant Grunge&#8221;? I like what it does to inserted photos.</p>
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